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... vehicle, you were pretty excited, thinking, “So when do I get on? Why are these guys wearing glasses launching in the Space Shuttle? They’re old.” That’s what I was ... the older established astronauts had not flown military aircraft with a HUD. Now, the younger guys, the ’78 and the ’80 group pilots had all flown aircraft with a HUD. There ... into the Orbiter. '''Ross-Nazzal:''' Who else was working on that with you? '''Blaha:''' The guy who was first working on it in the ’78 group was Dave S. David Griggs ...

... :''' That was a big responsibility for a new engineer. '''Bond:''' It was. It was, a guy just out of school for a year and a quarter, something like that. I learned ... at Langley and the PARD. He was our first division chief of the SESL. Another guy that was really one of my mainstays in vacuum technology was a fellow by the ... came to us that had any real background in vacuum technology. We had several other guys that were real good. Now you're taxing my memory here. I think I mentioned ...

... , Wally and I always hit it off very well; and Wally is a great, great guy. '''Neal:''' In the beginning, back as you were first starting Mercury, specialization was pretty much ... worked very well together. Pete’s a very, very go-getting type guy. He’s a— '''Neal:''' Fun-loving guy, too, isn’t he? '''Cooper:''' Yeah, he’s very capable. '''Neal:''' He ... one of my friends, who was very high-echelon in General Motors, and said, “These guys really would like to see some experimental automobiles.” With that, he came up and said ...

... Shuttle mission simulators, the SMS simulators down there. So we did not interface with these guys daily, though they were kind of our superdads down there to make sure that everything ... down there. So ’79 would have been my first exposure, and I was a hardware guy and learned as much as I could about the Orbiter down there. '''Wright:''' One difference ... his— '''Gregory:''' Oh sure. Yes, Don not only waited for those—he was a ’66 guy, so that’s nineteen years. He had not only waited those nineteen years patiently, but ...

... ended when Milt Heflin, our Flight Director, made a command decision, saying “We trained these guys and sent them up to do the job, and they can see the problem better ... most remote parts of Texas, not too far from the border with New Mexico. These guys - not to overstate the case - are real risk takers. Not only do they have Type ... and the Future of Space Launch Vehicles, in April 2004.) '' Paul Allen is the old guy in the space billionaires’ club. He is the fellow who made his fortune way back ...

... the orbiter with Karol J. Bobko, Gordon Charles G. Fullerton, and some of the other guys, and they'd call out the altitude, basically, at the very end and look over ... the ops business, so they, I think, threatened to sell it to the Germans. A guy named Kirk Irwin, who actually was an ex-NASA engineer from Edwards, was their manager ... :''' Get five minutes with John Young, because he was there, one of the early Gemini guys. He can tell you a lot about aircraft ops from the user's standpoint. '''Carlson ...

... , face the flag and put your hand over your heart, and we did. The embassy guy said they picked that up on the television, on the live television arrival. '''Swanson:''' Just ... astronauts, that is, all the countries waived any kind of customs inspections. We had one guy who carried all of our passports and he would, just as a courtesy, give the ... insisted on coming aboard and spraying for tse-tse flies. Nick Ruwe, our State Department guy, was highly offended that they would do that, but they insisted on doing it anyway ...

... :''' I’m still a little bit curious about what happened to the spacecraft. Now you guys are saying the hatch stayed closed that long? '''Bogard:''' They closed the hatch. They brought ... . The vacuum chamber was in here. An operator, usually a couple of the biggest contractor guys we had, would stand here, and they wore big space suit type gloves so they ... , let’s see. I think this was an outstanding session. So I thank all you guys for coming and Don and Gary. '''Bogard:''' You’re welcome. '''Vaughan:''' Want to thank you ...

... :''' I’m still a little bit curious about what happened to the spacecraft. Now you guys are saying the hatch stayed closed that long? '''Bogard:''' They closed the hatch. They brought ... . The vacuum chamber was in here. An operator, usually a couple of the biggest contractor guys we had, would stand here, and they wore big space suit type gloves so they ... , let’s see. I think this was an outstanding session. So I thank all you guys for coming and Don and Gary. '''Bogard:''' You’re welcome. '''Vaughan:''' Want to thank you ...

... on it, and I was one of them. So I had been almost the youngest guy on the Dyna-Soar Program, so when we went on MOL, I was the oldest ... was the thing they had most all the new astronauts working on and all the guys that came from MOL, and then I was working with them from the FCOD Flight ... it got around to the last part, they took me off and put some other guys on it, so I never did fly it. I never did fly the STA. '''Wright ...

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