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... hospital for a daily output, and, most of us, and probably most of the Skylab guys, drank a lot of liquids, and, so, produced more urine than they had anticipated, and ... you were so low on the totem pole? '''Bobko:''' Well, no. I mean, the MOL guys got here, and the Apollo Program and the Skylab Program both just started to ramp ... . Carolyn Sumner phonetic came to us and said, “Hey, we’d like to have you guys use toys to demonstrate physical principles.” What they do now is they give the kids ...

... Mission Operations Directorate that was working on the project at the time was a young guy by the name of Bill William H. Gerstenmaier, who is now the Space Station Program ... started looking at lots of different possibilities of what to do. And I remember that Guy Gardner and Dale Gardner, two astronauts that were assigned to the mission that was going ... there for about seven months of the year during the week and occasional weekends. My guys would be on station with the Rockwell test engineers. They would, of course, review and ...

... —they'd blown up a number of those. '''Butler:''' Oops. '''Brandenstein:''' So one of the guys in the office was basically the office representative, that he ought to be the smartest ... going to get sick. I thought it was mind over matter. I always thought these guys decided they were going to—everybody was saying they were getting sick, so everybody launching ... and I were up front, watching the instruments and everything like that, and we had Guy Guion S. Bluford Jr. and Dale Gardner behind, the mission specialists. You have the overhead ...

... the middle of one now. That's what that phone call I was making, the guy's beeper number, was all about when you arrived. '''Wright:''' Can you share any information ... Donald D. Engen, who was at that time administrator of the FAA, a very interesting guy. He initially did not think much of this, but ultimately he came to agree, except ... better question is, why is the industry there not fostering this kind of thing. The guy told him, "That's your question. You find the answer. I'm not interested in ...

... us.” Bill Larsen was a division chief at the time, but Bill had been the guy who had had the history program under his purview early on. We used to have ... to the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center Huntsville, Alabama and built the rockets, to the guys down at the Cape Canaveral, Florida who put the first people in the Mercury capsule ... kind of thing. A fellow named Al Albert M. Chop, who was a public affairs guy at the time, actually contacted Charles Schulz and started working that process. Charles Schulz agreed ...

... Englishman who had come down here from Canada. '''Butler:''' Okay. '''Berry:''' He was a great guy, though. Morris V. Jenkins was his name. I subsequently ended up working for him. We ... . He has passed away several years ago. But he was a major force, very quiet guy. His way of making presentations, unless you were really into it, could put you to ... the most contributions to the space program. '''Butler:''' Both of those as well. '''Berry:''' Another guy I forgot to mention was Jim James C. McPherson and Emil R. Schiesser and Bob ...

... secretary to type up some travel orders, and generally she would sign them, because the guy we worked for was never around. And she knew how to forge his signature just ... everybody's mind. It turned out the site selection was really interesting. We had a guy in our group who was somehow close to that site selection. I don't think ... power. I can take this machine home, although it weighs a ton." Laughter So this guy, Pete Peterson, who worked for me, he was an Air Force lieutenant, he was on ...

... standing on her balcony. “Can you believe this is really happening?” '''Ross-Nazzal:''' Did you guys talk about all this publicity that was landing at your doorstep and how you were ... want to open your windows.” Funny the things you remember. '''Ross-Nazzal:''' Where did you guys end up? '''Fisher:''' We wound up living in Clear Lake Forest Subdivision. '''Ross-Nazzal:''' That ... red group. It’s interesting how these military folks just emerge as leaders. Those two guys just really emerged as leaders from very early on. We would have our classes separately ...

... at things well. Well, when I started taking this big procedure through the signature chain, guys would thumb through it and look through it and say we know you feel like ... , and Chris Kraft said, “That sounds logical, but this is such a critical thing, you guys have got to get together and perform a test to prove absolutely that that’s ... that mission, out of curiosity because I never had heard. I asked PJ, “Did you guys ever get any training on that contingency docking cable?” He said, “No, all we did ...

... my wife… W hen I came to the final screening , there were a row of guys…, Al Shepard Alan B. Shepard, Jr. , Wally Schirra Walter M. Schirra, Jr. , Chuck Charles A ... book Deke because I could never figure out what the selections were based on. Some guys got picked early that I wouldn’t fly with and others seemed to get ignored ... the Command Module, the more I became welded to the Command Module and Command Module guys … don’t land. And my position on the totem pole was such that it was ...

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